Regardless of your application, vcm suite covers all the main parameters to. With preloaded tuning, customizable gauges to track performance, and a wide variety of hauling and offroading features, youll have plenty of power to take on tough jobs or improved fuel economy for long highway hauls. Disabling brake torque management with hp tuners youtube. Within hp tuners software the user can adjust the pcms fuel, timing, torque. With shiftonthefly tuning, customizable gauges to track performance, and better control of defueling and regeneration, youll be able to summon the lowend power to take on tough jobs or improve fuel economy for long highway hauls. Their vcm scanner software works with any gm obdii vehicle, even if. Efilive diesel tuning for a common rail diesel engine we buy diesel pickups because we appreciate the simple pleasure of pushyoubackinyourseat torque. Deleting brake torque management p01 pcm dale follett 7172018 ok next three photos will show you how to turn off brake torque management in the p04 or 0411 pcm. This will limit your ability to do a burnout or to launch with maximum torque if youre into drag racing. Spark retard and then knock advance limit vs rpm vs load. Apr 28, 2017 in this video im just going over some of the finer points of the hp tuners zf 8speed automatic tuning parameters. In the tables above you can see that for the 3rd to 4th and the 4th to 5th rows that the value is 0.
That being said, could the op have a stock converter he thought was supposed to be a 2800 stall. Iirc, the stock torque limit is 350nm which is about 260 ftlbs. I have posted them here, on my site, and i will add more as they become available for you to use for free. Have tested this on the 0411 pcm p01 but these techniques should. Either increase the force torque applied by the engine and transmission, or decrease the mass the engine has to move your car. Particularly when the car is in drive, if we take our foot off the brake, the car. Hp tuners software is incredibly user friendly, however, there are simply. Truck owners hp tuners vcm suit tuning software for the.
I am looking for screen shots of all the tables for brake torque management in the trailblazer ss only. Calculate its mechanical efficiency from horsepower and then from torque. Heres the first dialog box that i received after clicking read. I dynod at 151 hp and 201 tq at the wheels with these changes and since then ive raised the turbo base dc table a tiny bit more from 4000 to 6000 rpm so hp should be closer to 155 160, the turbo base dc table pictured above shows these most recent tweaks. Sep 15, 2009 efilive diesel tuning for a common rail diesel engine we buy diesel pickups because we appreciate the simple pleasure of pushyoubackinyourseat torque. Latest software version questions, answers and shared. Camaro power programmers, ecuecmpcm tuning, custom mail. I was wondering if anyone has any info at all about all this, its driving me nuts. Not sure what the code is because i dont have an obd1 scanner and it seems the scanner is built into the software in the hp tuner. Then you must do a write entire and then boom, itll be turned off, youll be able to hit your brakes on a big cam application and it wont kill. If you wanted to convert from a 4 to a 6speed, the framework already exists in the software to control it.
The factory tune also limits the rate at which the throttle body opens up. Maximum allowed torque when exhaust gas overtemperature is detected. Sct livelink software download link used for viewing sct datalogs instantly get extra horsepower, increased throttle response, reduce torque management, disable dod automatic l99, and much more with an aftermarket tune for your stock or upgraded 2010, 2011, 2012 camaro ss custom tuning form link why upgrade your stock tune file. The apr stage ii ecu upgrade requires a high flow race dp exhaust system and is available with 575614 hp and 669717 ftlbs torque, depending on octane. Torque and horsepower chart monitoring in hp tuners youtube. Either increase the force torque applied by the engine and transmission, or decrease the mass the engine has to. You can leave the maximum settings alone, but if you open the minimum table, youll see one much like that below. This works for inertia dynos, and also for brake dynos with sufficiently heavy rollers.
The gt gas tuner unlocks more horsepower and torque to meet the unique demands you put on your vehicle. I have used 3 tuners for 3 different tuners wait4me,pcmforless, zippy performance and have had problems with all of them. He owned and ran an internationally renowned performance dyno tuning workshop in wellington, new zealand and has made his mark developing and tuning a number of high powered import drag cars, many of which set world records. Once i was able to get the drivers installed correctly it came time to read my stock tune so that i could send it to firepunk for modification. This software must be used with a high flow race dp exhaust system. Scan and clear dtcs check engine light with hp tuners. Hp tuners disable dodafm chevy silverado and tahoe. We wanted to take a deeper look at what makes hp tuners software work.
How to use the bluecat trans tool for 6 speeds hptuners. This is practically required if you are running any kind of aftermarket larger camshaft on. Brake torque limit is another cap that prevents you from making a hard launch from a standstill. Basically i have had the car tuned locally with hp tuners. Through code levels changes, aprs engineers are able to add features to the ecu. Stall speed is all about max torque allowed when pressurizing. Hp tuners has been a leader in providing software for gm custom tuning.
To get access to the beta you should email hp tuners tech support email and they will add it to. The objective is to get as close to mbt as safely possible. In this video i show you how to disable the brake tqmgt parameter in hp tuners to. On the left side of the hp tuners software below you will find tcc duty cycle with two tables below it. Hp tuners vcm suit tuning software for the hobbyist and the pro. Stall converter tuning hp tuners chevy trailblazer ss forum. Now enhancing these to new heights with a new feature rich vcm editor and vcm scanner, coupled together with the latest generation mpvi2, this is only tuning and diagnostic solution youll. It works by measuring the deceleration during retardation. I need some screen shots of efi live that show all of the brake torque management tables. Aids in engine braking, increases fuel economy, and can be used for drag racing as well. Jul 03, 2010 the software upgrade doesnt increase the torque handling capacity.
All about horsepower, torque, speed, and acceleration. This allows aprs engineers to often not require transmission software to meet or exceed advertised gains. My available tabs under speedo are calibration and limiter. Possible, but since he said it brake torques to 1900, there is definitely a tune limiting factor. How to read a dtc and clear the check engine light using hp tuners. Im working on getting my truck remotely tuned by firepunk via the hp tuners interface. This is the maximum allowed etc throttle percent based on the current percentage of torque being delivered. Josh i dont know you but thanks for posting some helpfull information for our forum i was going to pass my knowledge on for our member as their is room for many of us out here to do what we like or if its a job i may be some help to you some day as you maybe to me and that is what this forum is for to help each other out. The dsg controller does have the ability to limit engine torque during shifts.
Stores up to 20 custom tune files created by your local sct custom tuning dealer. If you max out this table it essentially eliminates the function. Heres a quick video to show how you can easily setup horsepower and torque charts in the hp tuners scanner. Maximum torque during braking, to ensure the vehicle. This point is known as minimum timing for best torque mbt also sometimes referred to as maximum brake torque timing. A conservative rate of change speed will help the software and vehicle stay. And, you can tune your vehicle or program your vehicle. Aug 23, 20 as many tuners may be aware, the new e92 ecm uses an advanced, torquebased control structure see the sidebar for more info. Gm gen iv calibration scaling the standard for tuners and.
Dyno vs road tuning vs etune high performance academy. Now enhancing these to new heights with a new feature rich vcm editor and vcm scanner, coupled together with the latest generation mpvi2, this is only tuning and diagnostic solution youll ever need for your modern obdii vehicle. I have access to a buddies hp tuners software suite, and am debating tuning my truck with it. It limits the usable responsespeedpower of any engine dyno.
As long as it smokes, whistles and stinks, we assume it is running like it should. Hp tuners, the home of vcm suite and the mpvi since 2003. Brake torque management screen shots needed archive. Torque calculations are more important for the automatic crowd, which opens a whole new world of scaling requirements for the transmission. With new software you can have faster gear changes on manual mode, launch control, better response etc.
Used as an exhaust brake to increase engine braking while coasting towing heavier loads. Torque and horsepower chart monitoring in hp tuners. Using the deceleration and the moment of inertia of the system, it calculates the torque loss at each rpm. Specializing in vehicles equipped with the 6l8090 transmission, the 8l90 transmission, and the 6t70 transmission. Ssp performance offers 2 kind of such uprated disks. It is a windows application that allows reflashingremapping chip tuning of mazda mzr disi, rotary, skyactivd and skyactivg engine ecus, data logging, tune editing and diagnostics. I notice i am unable to do any power braking torque braking, holding the brake pedal while giving it some gas to bring rpms up before launching. The banks brake, when fully applied, exerts a backpressure of 38 psi on the ford power stroke, or 60 psi on the dodge cummins, or 55 psi on the chevygmc duramaxinfinitesimal compared to the power load plus the power load is applied with extreme heat, while the brake applies no heat to the cylinder. Controls how much torque is reduced based on degrees of retard. Versatuner is tuning software for mazdaspeed, mazda mps, cx7, rx8, mazda3, mazda6, cx5 and mx5miata vehicles. The different parameters, how to make changes, what effects happen when making changes, and how to make custom pids and log sensors through the scanner. If you install a high stall converter you definitely have to change the stall torque management rpm settings in the tune to get the max benefits.
While this may be quite a bit different than the gen iiiiv computers, hp tuners has been working with these schemes for some time on the e78 and e39 computers used in gms other directinjection engines, such as the. I understand that the e38 doesnt have a ve table and instead uses a virtual torque function. Maximum allowed engine torque for electronic throttle control fitted. The ideal would be to get your own tuning software like elfie, etc you could then tune for every pull. The gt diesel tuner unlocks more horsepower and torque to meet the unique demands you put on your vehicle. Tuning hp tuners tire size hi, i dont have a geartire calc tab as seen in this video. Dec 15, 2014 gm efi tuning for beginners posted on december 15, 2014 by scott parker in columns, the science of speed with scott parker 1 comment if youve been around the gm efi scene, whether it is perusing the messageboards, races, car shows, etc. Camaro power programmers, ecuecmpcm tuning, custom. Power programmers and performance tuners are essentially the same thing. Clearly this calibration can operate a 5speed transmission, but here were only dealing with 4 well get to the 6l8090e in an upcoming article. The first step in tuning your own mustang with hp tuners is to make sure you have downloaded and installed the latest beta release of the software. Then put some tq limits back into the trans but set them to something like. To get access to the beta you should email hp tuners tech support email and they will add it to your customer area so that you can download it.
So if our goal is maximum acceleration, you can go about it two ways. Its measured brake output is 426 hp at 5,900 rpm and 420 ftlbs of torque at 4,600 rpm. E38 ecm and virtual torque high performance academy. Dialaboost ms3 gold box fuel injector info physical size connector types. The brake torque limit table restricts the engine torque while the brake is pressed. Sct in the global leader in performance tuners, tuning software and tuning accessories for your car or truck. Efilive diesel tuning for a common rail diesel engine. Read the entire thread before tuning to ensure you have all the information. Andre is the technical founder of hpa and has around 17 years of experience in the tuning industry. In this video i explain the how to disable or turn off the displacement on demand dod active fuel management in hp tuners. It just wants to directly limit the engine torque to control the rpm it wants to.
Have you found a tuner that will eliminate all of the torque management. The e78 and e39 ecm use a new torque based control structure that is similar to systems used by ford and dodge. Gm gen iv calibration scaling the standard for tuners. Hi, i am new to tuning and trying to am trying to correlate my learnings from the efi fundamentals course to the functionality contained in the hp tuners editor software v3. Brake torque limit is another cap that prevents you from making a. Mbt in the context im using it pertains to maximum brake torque. Weve seen many tuners use work arounds such as drilling holes through the throttle. Transmission fluid and level is perfect, recently changed the fluid. Vcm suite is a comprehensive tuning tool for late model efi electronic fuel injection. Almost any cr tdi tune will put out over 350nm of torque, so this can definitely be felt as the engine cuts back a bit for every shift. Tm comes into play during the shift transition, as even at stock power levels, the oe limits the torque input to the transmission during shifts.
Hp tuners has released the beta version of their transmission tuning software. Hp tuners 42 lbhr bosch injectors ported intake manifold, minor tb cleanup. Driver demand and max torque, gen v parameters that you need to know. This is less aggressive than the jake brake file so it may be ideal for. Sloppy mechanics wiki deleting brake torque management p01. Other changes allow higher torque limits than those achievable through only modifying calibration data or using piggyback devices as is the case for many tuners. And was told there might be some kind of brake torque management causing an issue. This is a significant change in the way the ecm processes inputs, performs internal calculations and also controls the engine outputs such as throttle, spark and fuel. With this option enabled you get both wheel hp torque and engine hp torque. Jan 09, 2019 i would follow the old mercon temps, those are 225 max uninterrupted running temp, the closer you get to 250 it calls for a 30 minute max operating limit and stop and let it cool down.
We hit the company up and got in touch with eric brooks, vehicle engineer, who has been a ford tuning guru for as long as we. Maximum torque the values affect the maximum torque allowed by the vcm. Mbt maximum brake torque the biggest mistake a bunch of tuners make is thinking that more timingmore power, thats an incorrect assumption, like everything theres always a trade off. I just ordered the vcm suite from hp tuners with the mvi2. Sloppy mechanics bench flashing harness build sheet and instructions for obd2 blue redgreen style ls ecus. With hp tuners, you can click on the torque axis of a table and open the labels, allowing you to just divide those labels by 2 and properly adjust the table by 50% shown below. Many of these values only apply to electronic throttle control vehicles. Mar 24, 2018 heres a quick video to show how you can easily setup horsepower and torque charts in the hp tuners scanner.
Maximum torque during braking, to ensure the vehicle brakes can always stop the vehicle. Command the torque converter clutch enable solenoid. The stock converter stall is actually 2200rpm, its only limited to 1800rpm by the pcm stall torque management. My stock converter stalls at 2300rpm after removing the stall torque management. I can post a stock spark file and hp tuners editor is free software so if you are. For more torque you should change the clutch disks. Nov 24, 2018 you can tune your radio or program your radio. The demon has a trans brake, its not mechanical all software time will tell trickle down. This will eliminate all torque management within the pcm. Keeps the torque converter locked during deceleration to aid in engine braking.
Second table is max engine torque limit, looks kinda familiar. Ive been a strong advocate for using quality audio knock detection on any tuning project for as long as ive been tuning, but there are a number of tuners who disagree, stating that all you need to tune the engine safely is a load bearing dyno with an accurate and sensitive torque reading. Both of us have some tuning experience, he tuned his ls1 swapped bmw, and i have motorcycle tuning experience. The course is divided up into separate processes for tuning each transmission, which includes torque management, shift times, shift firmness, shift points and feel. Mar 30, 2017 tuning for supercharged and turbocharged ls engines march 30, 2017 by ls engine diy in the most basic terms, electronically controlled engines must be carefully calibrated to take advantage of engine modifications that affect airflow and fuel delivery requirements. Increasing the rpm limit is recommended only for racing purposes. With things changing rapidly in the tuning world and the recent introduction of the mm3 tuner, i thought id throw up up a thread showing what i feel are true advantages the mm3 tuner has over the efi live platform which includes their autocal and v2 flashscan devices. Mbt stands for maximum brake torque and it is basically the timing that. Get serious with dockingstation enginebuilder class absorber systems. Sloppy mechanics wiki deleting brake torque management.
Then a simple blockmount water brake racer class absorber may be okay. As far as throttle position on the trans brake, the purpose of the trans brake is so you can floor it, but dont sit on it more than a couple seconds as they are. The point of this is that we want to time the spark event so that we are achieving maximum cylinder pressure at the correct point in the engine cycle in order to create maximum torque at the crankshaft. The tbsss e38 ecm is also used on the fifthgen camaro and c6 corvette, which both offer a 6speed automatic.
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